Say Amen, Somebody (1983)

G | 100 mins | Documentary | 11 March 1983

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HISTORY

       Say Amen, Somebody premiered 5 Oct 1982 of at the New York Film Festival to a “sold-out audience,” according to the 5 Oct 1982 NYT review. On 19 Nov 1982, DV reported that United Artists Classics acquired the film for domestic distribution.
       In the 7 Apr 1983 CSM, director George T. Nierenberg revealed that he made the picture at the suggestion of a friend, who saw the need for a documentary about gospel music. The director believed he was able to offer a “fresh point of view” on the subject due to his lack of familiarity with the music. Nierenberg and his wife, Karen, became familiar with gospel music by attending churches and other venues where it was performed. A year was spent “casting” his film, searching for people with a strong screen presence who could convey the story about the music’s origins. Nierenberg admitted that, had he not met singers Thomas A. Dorsey and Willie Mae Ford Smith, the picture would likely not have been made. The director built a relationship with his cast to determine which “aspects of their lives” he wanted to portray. Instead of filming his subjects’ lives as they happened, he selected moments that he wanted to recreate for the camera. Principal photography was completed over a fifteen-day period in 1981.
       In the 1 May 1983 LAHExam, Nierenberg stated that he interviewed “literally hundreds” of gospel performers, including Reverend James Cleveland, the Hawkins Family, R. H. Harris, and Rev. Claud Jeter, before deciding on Dorsey and Smith. He also admitted to organizing ...

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       Say Amen, Somebody premiered 5 Oct 1982 of at the New York Film Festival to a “sold-out audience,” according to the 5 Oct 1982 NYT review. On 19 Nov 1982, DV reported that United Artists Classics acquired the film for domestic distribution.
       In the 7 Apr 1983 CSM, director George T. Nierenberg revealed that he made the picture at the suggestion of a friend, who saw the need for a documentary about gospel music. The director believed he was able to offer a “fresh point of view” on the subject due to his lack of familiarity with the music. Nierenberg and his wife, Karen, became familiar with gospel music by attending churches and other venues where it was performed. A year was spent “casting” his film, searching for people with a strong screen presence who could convey the story about the music’s origins. Nierenberg admitted that, had he not met singers Thomas A. Dorsey and Willie Mae Ford Smith, the picture would likely not have been made. The director built a relationship with his cast to determine which “aspects of their lives” he wanted to portray. Instead of filming his subjects’ lives as they happened, he selected moments that he wanted to recreate for the camera. Principal photography was completed over a fifteen-day period in 1981.
       In the 1 May 1983 LAHExam, Nierenberg stated that he interviewed “literally hundreds” of gospel performers, including Reverend James Cleveland, the Hawkins Family, R. H. Harris, and Rev. Claud Jeter, before deciding on Dorsey and Smith. He also admitted to organizing the tribute to Smith that appears in the film, and selecting the repertoire for each performer. The director described his method as experiencing an event, then recreating it on film.
       The picture opened to positive reviews on 11 Mar 1983 in New York City, and on 27 Apr 1983 in Los Angeles, CA. A soundtrack album was released in Apr 1983. The 14 May 1983 Billboard reported that, in addition to the usual retail outlets, the album was sold at theaters exhibiting the film in New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, IL, and San Francisco, CA, during its opening weeks. In the 1 May 1983 NYT, it was noted that the album included performances from the film, as well as several deleted during the editing process.




      End credits include the following statements: "Special thanks: Gerard I. Nierenberg; Ry Cooder; Bess Hawes; Anna Caravelli; Mara Mayor; Frank Driggs; John Baker; Dave Chertok; Jeff Hayes; Jay Freund; Sid Ordower; Mayfair Hotel; Dennis Reiff; Mark Brecker; Clayton Hannah; Tony Heilbut; Hyde Park Hilton; Hyatt Regency, Houston; Barbara Coffren; John Sosenko; Jeremy Nussbaum; Bob Halfon; National Convention of Gospel Choirs & Choruses; John Carter; Collective Black Artists; Katherine Dorsey; Rev. Earl Preston; Antioch Baptist Church; Pilgrim Baptist Church; Cornerstone Institutional Baptist Church; Beersheba Baptist Church; Father Lucius Cervantes; St. Louis Area Agency on Aging; KIRL/AM; St. Louis Station Associates; Geneva Clark, Emma Stewart, Gospel Unlimited; Bicey Jenkins, Emmet McWoods; Irene W. Ross; Lively Stone of God and Christ"; "For Lily"; "Major funding for this film was provided by the National Endowment for the Humanities"; "Additional support from the National Endowment for the Arts and the Missouri Arts Council."

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GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS
SOURCE CITATIONS
SOURCE
DATE
PAGE
Billboard
14 May 1983
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Billboard
16 Jul 1983
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Christian Science Monitor
7 Apr 1983
p. 17
Daily Variety
19 Nov 1982
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Hollywood Reporter
19 Apr 1983
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Hollywood Reporter
6 May 1983
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LAHExam
1 May 1983
p. 1
Los Angeles Times
27 Apr 1983
p. 1
New York Times
5 Oct 1982
p. 9
New York Times
11 Mar 1983
p. C10
New York Times
1 May 1983
pp. 23-24
Variety
13 Oct 1982
p. 16
CAST
PRODUCTION CREDITS
NAME
PARENT COMPANY
PRODUCTION COMPANY
PRODUCTION TEXTS
GTN Productions presents
A Film by George T. Nierenberg
DISTRIBUTION COMPANY
NAME
CREDITED AS
CREDIT
DIRECTORS
Prod mgr
Prod mgr
Prod mgr
PHOTOGRAPHY
Dir of photog
Dir of photog
Addl cam
Addl cam
Addl cam
Addl cam
Addl cam
Gaffer
Grip
Asst cam
Asst cam
Asst cam
Asst cam
Asst cam
Asst cam
FILM EDITORS
Film ed
Negative cutter
Coding
MUSIC
Admin organization
SOUND
Addl sd
Addl sd
Sd ed
Re-rec mixer
Sd transfers
Sd transfers
Public address system
VISUAL EFFECTS
Title des
PRODUCTION MISC
Prod office coord
Prod asst
Prod asst
Prod asst
Photo retouching
Photo copying
SOURCES
SONGS
"Take My Hand, Precious Lord," by Thomas A. Dorsey; "When I've Done My Best," by Thomas A. Dorsey; "If You See My Savior," by Thomas A. Dorsey; "Never Turn Back," by Thomas A. Dorsey; "Singing In My Soul," by Thomas A. Dorsey; "Let's Go Back To God," by Thomas A. Dorsey; "Highway To Heaven," by Thomas A. Dorsey, Mary Gardner; "Cannaan," by A. B. Windom; "He Brought Us," by Charles Pikes; "Jesus Dropped The Charges," by Edward and Edgar O'Neal; "I'm His Child," by Malcolm Speed; "No Ways Tired," by Curtis Burrell; "He Chose Me," by James Cleveland; "What Manner Of Man," by Roman Holmes; "The Storm Is Passing Over," by C. A. Tindley; "Jesus Loves Me," by William B. Bradbury, Anna Warner; "My Heavenly Father Watches Over Me," by Charles H. Gabriel; "Is Your All On The Altar," by Elisha A. Hoffman; "Just A Closer Walk With Thee," traditional; "God Shall Wipe All Tears Away," by Antonio Hakell.
SONGWRITERS/COMPOSERS
+ −
DETAILS
Release Date:
11 March 1983
Premiere Information:
New York Film Festival screening: 5 Oct 1982; New York opening: 11 Mar 1983; Los Angeles opening: 27 Apr 1983
Production Date:
1981
Copyright Info
Claimant
Date
Copyright Number
George T. Nierenberg
2 June 1983
PA203303
Physical Properties:
Sound
Color
Duration(in mins):
100
MPAA Rating:
G
Country:
United States
Language:
English
SYNOPSIS

Gospel songwriter Thomas A. Dorsey and singer Willie Mae Ford Smith attend the National Convention of Gospel Choirs and Choruses, an annual convention founded by Dorsey. On another occasion, Willie Mae sings for a group of senior citizens, accompanied by her adopted daughter, Bertha, on piano. At home, Bertha reads aloud an essay she has written about her travels with Willie Mae, commemorating the many singers her mother has inspired and mentored. Radio station KIRL in St. Louis, Missouri, announces a tribute to Willie Mae, to be held the following Sunday at nearby Antioch Baptist Church, featuring performances by Delois Barrett Campbell and the Barrett Sisters, Zella Jackson Price, and the O’Neal Twins, Edward and Edgar. During the tribute, Willie Mae explains that her “bluesy” singing style was not accepted by many African American churches, but has now become the standard. She credits Thomas, known as the “father of gospel,” with adding the “energy and rhythm” to spiritual music, and with founding the National Convention to give its practitioners an identity. He has also been the choirmaster at Pilgrim Baptist Church in Chicago, Illinois, since the early 1930s. Willie Mae considers Thomas to be among the greatest gospel songwriters of all time, citing his most popular composition, “Take My Hand, Precious Lord,” which he wrote following the death of his wife and newborn son. In the 1920s, Thomas was a blues musician with 300 songs to his credit and several recordings with legendary singer Ma Rainey. After his transition to gospel music, Thomas formed a partnership with singer Sallie Martin, who popularized his songs, distributed his sheet music, and acted ...

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Gospel songwriter Thomas A. Dorsey and singer Willie Mae Ford Smith attend the National Convention of Gospel Choirs and Choruses, an annual convention founded by Dorsey. On another occasion, Willie Mae sings for a group of senior citizens, accompanied by her adopted daughter, Bertha, on piano. At home, Bertha reads aloud an essay she has written about her travels with Willie Mae, commemorating the many singers her mother has inspired and mentored. Radio station KIRL in St. Louis, Missouri, announces a tribute to Willie Mae, to be held the following Sunday at nearby Antioch Baptist Church, featuring performances by Delois Barrett Campbell and the Barrett Sisters, Zella Jackson Price, and the O’Neal Twins, Edward and Edgar. During the tribute, Willie Mae explains that her “bluesy” singing style was not accepted by many African American churches, but has now become the standard. She credits Thomas, known as the “father of gospel,” with adding the “energy and rhythm” to spiritual music, and with founding the National Convention to give its practitioners an identity. He has also been the choirmaster at Pilgrim Baptist Church in Chicago, Illinois, since the early 1930s. Willie Mae considers Thomas to be among the greatest gospel songwriters of all time, citing his most popular composition, “Take My Hand, Precious Lord,” which he wrote following the death of his wife and newborn son. In the 1920s, Thomas was a blues musician with 300 songs to his credit and several recordings with legendary singer Ma Rainey. After his transition to gospel music, Thomas formed a partnership with singer Sallie Martin, who popularized his songs, distributed his sheet music, and acted as his business manager. As Willie Mae and her grandson, Michael Keith Smith, drive through St. Louis, she discusses the history of her ministry, which Michael considers inappropriate for a woman, though he denies that he is a male chauvinist. Later, Zella Jackson Price tells Willie Mae that she will be away from her family for two weeks on a series of singing engagements. Willie Mae relates the story of how her late husband once tried to prevent her from boarding a train, but he only succeeded in falling down an elevator shaft. He was disabled for several years, which Willie Mae attributes to the will of God. In addition to singing, Willie Mae has also made a career of mentoring young gospel singers, including Delois Barrett Campbell and the O’Neal Twins. Willie Mae considers them true gospel singers, as they are motivated by religious convictions rather than commercial gain. Willie Mae’s son, Billy Smith, joins the O’Neal Twins for an interview at KIRL, where they discuss the state of contemporary gospel music. The twins lament the commercialism that has overtaken the genre, but also admit that they would like to see their music achieve mainstream success. At the Beersheba Baptist Church, Delois leads the congregation in a hymn, followed by a religious service conducted by her husband, Rev. Frank W. Campbell. Afterward, as Delois and Frank discuss her upcoming singing engagements in Europe, he expresses concern that she will be increasingly unavailable for his Sunday services. However, Delois refuses to abandon her career for the sake of his ministry. The O’Neal Twins continue their discussion on the music industry with the Barrett Sisters, all of whom are resigned to the fact that gospel music has simply become another form of entertainment. Billy and his sister, Jackie Jackson, visit the Kiel Auditorium in St. Louis, where their mother hosted the first African American radio program, Bringing the Nations Back to God, during the 1940s. The program brought her a national audience, and attracted such guest performers as Mahalia Jackson, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, and the Golden Gate Quartet. As they walk among the ruins of Union Railway Station, Jackie and Billy reminisce about Willie Mae’s numerous departures, and how happy their father was when she returned. Later, Willie Mae admits that her singing voice has lost some of its quality, but she will continue to sing as long as she is able. Again citing Thomas as her inspiration, she describes how he “jumps on the altar” at every opportunity, despite his two broken hips. Willie Mae prays for him daily, and hopes to see him at the upcoming National Convention of Gospel Choirs and Choruses. As gospel singers from around the U.S. congregate at the convention, Willie Mae, Thomas, and Sallie discuss its beginnings in 1933. The longtime rivalry between the two women surfaces as they disagree over its city of origin. Prior to the opening ceremony, the convention hall is dressed with white linen to symbolize purity. When the conventioneers are assembled, Thomas enters, bestows blessings on them, and leads them in song. Willie Mae believes it was God’s will that enabled Thomas to attend. Later, she performs at Antioch Baptist Church, surrounded by her family, peers, and admirers.

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